I SOLD my Treadmill!! Yaaayy. You may remember that I had a big purchase I regretted back in March. Anyway, I posted my treadmill for sale on a local Classifieds Site and a lovely couple bought it. It’s good to know that they will make better use of the treadmill than me. I was probably only on it for 5-6 times 
So the western union scammer…
***WARNING! Long Post Ahead!***
I posted my treadmill on the Classifieds site. Received quite a few enquiry about it. The notable one is this fellow here (who later turn out to be a scammer)
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From: dangol hariss (dangolhariss@hotmail.com)
Subject: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
To: myemail@hotmail.com
Date: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 3:40:34 PMHello,is this item still up for sale?
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From: myemail@hotmail.com
To: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
Subject: FW: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:24:06 +0800Hello,
The treadmill is still available. I have attached pictures for you to have a look.
I have been getting questions about the treadmill, so here is the answer to those questions just in case you are wondering about the same thing.
There is no model number on the treadmill because it is a non-branded one. I bought it from solazsales when they had a promotion on ebay. I have receipt dated 3 March 09 for warranty purpose. Their in-store price for this treadmill is 1,090 + delivery to ACT. Their current promotion is 899 + delivery for the same model.
This treadmill is practically new, only 2 months old. Originally bought because my gym membership has expired. I have probably be on it 5 times max before deciding to renew my gym membership. Please remember that this is quite a big and heavy treadmill. So, if you decided to buy it, you will need to have someone help you moving it.
Cheers,
Patricia——————————————————————————–
From: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
To: myemail@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:53:40 +0000Thanks for the mail ,i am buying the item as a birthday gift for my son and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and i really want the item to be a surprise for him,so i wont let him know anything abt it until it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be very happy with it.I will pay you with my paypal because i dont have access to my bank account online as i dont have internet banking as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address so i can make the payments asap for the item and pls if you dont have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up , after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the item up after i have made the payments.
Regards
Dangol.——————————————————————————–
That email was my first warning bell. I found it weird that he does not have a bank account. Even if he works offshore, he should still have a bank account. Secondly, I know with paypal, you can reverse payment within 30 days if you open a dispute claim. So I am a bit wary.
So I checked with my boyfriend, boyfriend reckoned it could be legit because some people who works offshore get tax-free salary so they dont want to have an Australian Bank Account.
Anyway, it’s paypal. If it’s disputed… we’ll dispute. So I decided to respond.
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From: myemail@hotmail.com
To: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:10:17 +0800Hi Dangol,
Will your pick-up agent be a courier service?
I can unassemble the treadmill and put them back in the boxes with all the wrappings intact – unless you prefer it assembled (but it will be harder to move when assembled).
The only problem is, the treadmill is big and heavy and it’s actually on the first floor of my house so your agent will need to carry it downstairs. You’ll probably need two people. Will that be ok with your agent?
If this is ok, let me know what agent will you use and I’ll set up and send the paypal address to you.
Cheers,
Patricia——————————————————————————–
From: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
To: myemail@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:22:40 +0000hello pat,my agent works for a a company in uk but he is in their other branch in perth,i will like you to unassemble the treadmill and pack it in a box so that it will be easier for him to carry it on pick up..he will be coming with one of his collegue for the pick up so the carrying will not be a problem for him..
i will make the payment asap..
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WHAT??? PERTH?? Is this guy plain retarded or just really bad in geography? Perth is on the other side of the country. This was my second warning bell. But I decided to proceed…
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From: myemail@hotmail.com
To: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:40:19 +0800Hi Dangol,
Just want to make sure that you know Phillip is not in Perth. It is in Canberra.
Cheers,
Patricia——————————————————————————–
From: dangol hariss (dangolhariss@hotmail.com)
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2009 1:30:57 AM
To: myemail@hotmail.comi quite understand that…but what i mean is that my agent will only be coming from perth and will come as that is the instruction that he will be given since that is the work he does…
i will make the payment asap..
regards.
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Ummmm… OK…
It’s gonna cost you minimum $600 return per person to come to Canberra from Perth (if there is domestic flight sale, maybe $400). I think it’s about 3-5 days driving if you come by car. Why would you come all the way from Perth to pick up the treadmill. Let’s say 2 people travelling, it will cost them approx $1,000 to get the treadmill and back.
My treadmill is $700. With $1,700, why dont you just buy a new treadmill???? I was tempted to suggest it to him being a good person that I am .
However, I have decided that it’s not my problem… maybe they are en-route to Canberra on business. Anyway, I just want to sell the treadmill.
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From: myemail@hotmail.com
To: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:39:46 +0800Hi Dangol,
My paypal is: somepaypalemail@hotmail.com.
Please read my other email and if all is ok (about pickup and assembly), you can transfer the money to my paypal and let me know. I’ll then pass my mobile to your pick-up agent to schedule the delivery.
Cheers,
Pat——————————————————————————–
From: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
To: myemail@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:54:34 +0000Hello,
Thanks for the email. i have sent the payment,but i have a problem
here, i just got an email from my agent that he won’t come and pick up
the item unless i pay him the agent commission fee first, and there is
no way i could do that cos i am out of the country and i can’t access
western union here. i have decided to add the amount which is $800
while i paid through paypal. So please i will like you to help me wire
the said $800 to my agent via western union so he can be able to
come and pick up the item and also paypal said they won’t release the
funds until they get the western union information from you due to the
fact that i emailed them about the excess payment i made. The money
will be sent to my agent’s head office address in the UK but he will
be coming from canberra. Here is my
agent’s head office details which the money will be sent to:Name: Peter Collins
Address: 40, Rushams road
Horsham, West Sussex, Rh122NX
Country: United KingdomI was also told by paypal that a confirmation email has been sent to
somepaypalemail@hotmail.com pls check to confirm this.waiting to hear from you
thanks and i look forward to your help
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Then along comes these three hilarious emails, allegedly from paypal. It was branded like paypal and written by paypal staff member with funny/odd sense of humor poor english skills.
I did an IP check on the paypal and guess where they are coming from? NIGERIA!!!
I am going to highlight some of the funny english they have written.
Paypal Email 1
PayPal (from service@paypal.com.au <account.review@accountant.com>)
Dear Patricia Chan,
(1st mistake: This is not how the name registered under my paypal account)
This email confirms that “Dangol Hariss” dangolhariss@hotmail.com, have paid you a sum of $1,500.00 AUD using PayPal.
Payment Details
Purchased From: Patricia Chan
Transaction ID:1D953250MY990893TItem # Item Title Quantity Price Subtotal
N/A
Electric Motorised Treadmill 1$700.00
AUD$700.00 AUD
Pick up fee:
(includes any seller handling fees) $800.00 AUD
Shipping Insurance (not offered): –
Total:
$1,500.00 AUDPayment Route Code: C826-L003-Q999-T5365
Transaction ID: 1D953250MY990893T
Transaction Date: Saturday 09 May, 2009Auction Details
Item Number: N/A
Transaction Status: Confirmed
Buyer’s ID: dangolhariss@hotmail.comPick up Information
Pick up Details:
Arranged.Address Status: Confirmed
***PLEASE NOTE***
If you have questions about the pick up of your purchased item or service, please contact the buyer dangolhariss@hotmail.comGet Verified — Your Key to More Security and Free Features
Get Verified and help increase the security of your PayPal transactions for yourself and for everyone with whom you do business. You can also:* Fund purchases directly from your checking or savings account, in addition to using credit cards
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* Send money to friends, family, and PayPal Personal Account holdersGet Verified!
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response.(Get verified, but cant reply.. LOL).
This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer’s account and has been “APPROVED” but will not be credited into your account until the payment MTCN information is sent to us for shipment verification, so as to secure both the buyer and the seller.(tsk.. tsk.. tsk… such a long sentence with no comma or period)
Below are the relevant information required before your account will be credited: Send MTCN information to us at (account.review@accountant.com ) and our customer care service will attend to you. As soon as we receive the MTCN information for security and safety purpose of the buyer and the seller, the money will be credited to your account immediately.
**PLEASE NOTE **
Once the MTCN number is sent to us, you will receive a “CONFIRMATION E-mail” from PayPal® Service informing you that your account has been credited.PayPal Email ID PP843
Paypal Email 2 (written in a hilariously broken english and all bolded
Dear Patricia Chan:
(again, not my paypal name)We want to inform you that the money has been deducted from the buyer’s account but will not be credited into your account until we receive the information or proof that the said amount which the buyer requested has been sent out to the bearer via WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER. A total amount of $1,500.00AUD has been deducted from the buyer’s account and will be credited into your account as soon as we receive the requested information above.
After we receive the payment details from you for security purpose, your account will be credited at once, Our system has witness new upgrades, Please don’t be surprised if you see us requesting for strange informations and forwarding you to new customer attendants, its due to the amount of fraud going on involving our name which we are trying all our best to limit and put a stop to. As soon as we receive the requested information from you, your account will be credited.
(LOL.. requesting strange informations… also maybe use period instead of comma)
All you have to do is go to any AUSTRALIAN POST closer to you with the cash as they make western union transfer, send it to the bearer on the address provided by the buyer below, after which a receipt will be issued to you at the agency, you will then email a scanned copy of the receipt to our customer care service at account.review@accountant.com for verification purpose so as for your account to be credited. Below is the address provided by the buyer which the money will be sent to:Name: Peter Collins
Address: 40, Rushams road
Horsham, West Sussex, Rh122NX
Country: United KingdomWe are assuring of you a 100% safety, and as soon as the payment details is been emailed to us, a total amount of $1,500.00AUD will be credited into your account.
Thank You.
PayPal® UPDATE TEAM
Paypal Email 3
Dear Valuable Customer:
Be informed that the payment received from Dangol Hariss will only be credited into your account as soon as you email us the receipt issued to you after the money has been sent.
Be informed that this transaction is only available and can only be tracked and traced via email, so do reply back to us if you have any question about the transaction and not via phone call.
We are assuring you a 100% safety as we are doing this to secure both the buyer and the seller. The transaction has been verified and your money is safe with paypal.
Thank You
Paypal Team
OK, obviously the first thing I checked if the legitimacy of the emails, then my paypal account to see if the transaction has been reflected there (pending transaction, etc). Obviously, there is none. So, am I stupid enough to transfer the $800?
LOL.. ofcourse not. However, I did some research. There are quite a few cases of this type of Nigerian Scam. Google ‘Advanced Fee Scam,’ and you’ll see. Anyway, I received the emails at about 1am in the morning. Obviously there is no post office open. At 2am, I send this email to him:
To: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 02:05:17 +0800Hi Dangol,I got the email from paypal. But the amount will not be released until I wired the money to your agent. So, I went to the post office and they said it’s going to cost me $45 to wire the 800 to UK via Western Union.I am not prepared to spend an extra $45 especially if the money is tied up to paypal. I am about to wire $800 out of my pocket. Can you send an unrestricted amount of $45 to my paypal account? I can then withdraw the $45 and use it to wire the $800. If this is a hassle, maybe you should buy from someone else.
Thanks,
Patricia
From: dangolhariss@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Luxury Electric Motorised Treadmill – Near New
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:32:28 +0000Hello Pat,thanks for your mail and i am happy to read from you..as you said that you are unable to help me with the $45 which will cost you as the transfer charges..
I have called may agent and he told me that you can deduct the $45 from the $800 and send him the remaining $755 so that when he go for the dropping of the treadmill,he will collect his balance from the person that will sign the papers.
so you can deduct the $45 from the $800 and send him the remaining,as soon as you have done that,you will have to send a copy of the scanned receipt to paypal so that they can credit your account…
Thanks for your help and I hope to read from you soon.
Kind Regards.
Dangol.
Obviously cant scam the scammers He also probably didn’t realise that no post office is open at 2am in the morning.
So, I stopped playing game. I reported this to paypal, ACCC ScamWatch and I am also going to let the Classifieds site know that scammers may be using their website to find victims. I am also ignoring the scammer’s emails.
During the next 2 days, I received quite a number of private calls to my mobile. However, I always… ALWAYS put my phone on Silent. Any number, email or any personal information about myself that I made public are usually secondary information. So these phone calls did not annoy me at all.
From: dangol hariss (dangolhariss@hotmail.com)
Sent: Monday, 11 May 2009 3:12:51 AM
To: Patricia Chan (email censored)Hello Pat,i will like you to get back to me here as soon as you have helped me get the money sent to my pick up agent so that i can contact him to get set and be ready for the pick up…once you have sent the money,you will have to send a copy of the scanned receipt to paypal so that they can get your account credited immediately while i arrange for the delivery…
please i am hoping to read from you as soon as you are able to get the money sent..
regards.
Paypal Email 4:
Dear Valuable Customer:
Be aware that you are 100% safe with paypal and you do not need to worry about anything therefore you should make proper arrangements with the buyer on how to get the excess funds sent for your account to be credited as soon as you email us with the receipt.
Be informed that the payment received from Micheal Robby (Who???? They should at least get the names consistent before sending email) will only be credited into your account as soon as you email us the receipt issued to you after the money has been sent. We are still waiting to receive the requested details from you, be informed that as soon as you email us with the scanned copy of the receipt given to you at the western union agency hereby confirming that the excess payment has been sent out to the bearer, your account will be credited at once.
The money has been deducted from the buyer’s account and will be credited into your paypal account as soon as you send to us the payment receipt hereby confirming that the excess money has been sent out to the bearer via western union money transfer only as requested by the buyer.
The transaction has been screened and has proven to be 100% legal and real. You are hereby advised to go ahead with the transaction and wire out the said fee to the bearer, For security reasons email the western union payment receipt to paypal only and wait till your account is being credited before emailing the receipt to the buyer, therefore you can go ahead with the transaction.
We are assuring you a 100% safety as we are doing this to secure both the buyer and the seller. The transaction has been verified and your money is safe with paypal.
Be informed that if we do not receive the payment details from you within 48 working hours, your paypal account will be limited and suspended. (LOL… now I have been threatened).
Paypal Team.
After two more emails (one from ‘paypal’ and one from the scammer), everything just died down.
To be honest, I found the whole experience hilarious rather than annoying. Probably because I did not fall victim to it. However, I have decided to post this experience to warn people about it. I can see how someone who is new to the internet, western union and paypal may fall victim to it.
LOL, have just had the exact same guy emailing me to buy my bike and almost the exact same emails!! but i have to thank you, i Googled the guys email address and found ur post, couldnt stop laughing when i saw how identical the series of emails were.. anyway here is the email that made it so obvious that it was a scam… LOL
Hello,
Thanks for the email. i have sent the payment,but i have a problem
here, i just got an email from my agent that he won’t come and pick up
the item unless i pay him the agent commission fee first, and there is
no way i could do that cos i am out of the country and i can’t access
western union here. i have decided to add the amount which is $800
while i paid through paypal. So please i will like you to help me wire
the said $800 to my agent via western union so he can be able to
come and pick up the item and also paypal said they won’t release the
funds until they get the western union information from you due to the
fact that i emailed them about the excess payment i made. The money
will be sent to my agent’s head office address in the UK but he will
be coming from canberra. Here is my
agent’s head office details which the money will be sent to:
Name: Peter Collins
Address: 40, Rushams road
Horsham, West Sussex, Rh122NX
Country: United Kingdom
I was also told by paypal that a confirmation email has been sent to
***@abc.com.au pls check to confirm this.
waiting to hear from you
once again LOL
Hi
Thanks for posting this guy just emailed me to buy my car off drive.com.au, I knew it was a scam but the idea of getting rid of the car was tempting
Thanks for the comment guys. I have also received a few emails saying the same thing about these guys (Dangol Hariss, Peter Collins, Micheal Robby, etc). Hopefully this post is useful to stop them from action.
Hi Patricia,
Thanks for the posting. It was certainly useful as I didn’t have to spent much time to be certain it was a scam. Your page came first when I googled his name. I couldn’t help laughing seeing the same line used to scam your $700 treadmill and my $35K car.
This guy tried to ‘buy’ my car as a surprise for his dad. He just replaced ‘son’ with ‘dad’ and ‘item’ with ‘car’.
BTW, I got another offer from a guy in Scotland who is going to by my car (in Sydney) for his business in Africa. I’ve ignored it so far.
Dangol is a busy guy. He is buying my car too… His son/dad will be sooo happy with the surprise.
Thanks Patricia, I will be reporting it.
Hi Patricia
Thanks for your post, this was a great help. Seems like Dangol still hasn’t found a car for his dad and thought mine would be a great alternative to Ben’s, Adhya’s, Andrew’s or Austin’s bike!
Ha! I am so glad I googled our our mate “dangol Hariss” after he emailed me the exact same email to buy my car for his sons birthday – Funny thing was he never mentioned “car” once in his long winded message only that he wanted to buy my “item”!
Again thank you Patricia, your page came up straight away and it was great to see your warning has saved many people from this scammer!
Cheers
i recieved just the same wanting to buy my car for his dad
so funny LOL
its great people arnt getting sucked in
Thanks for the laugh Pat, I have had Dangol Harris send identical messages wanting to buy six of my cars advertised, I am a car dealer in Canberra and these guys seem to be targeting Allclassifieds but are too stupid to notice that their emails have gone to the same email address for six cars in ten minutes.
Glad nobody is being fooled by these thieves.
Tony
P.S. keep an eye out for “Kian Morgan”, “Larry Moore”, “Jeyifous Mark”, “Patrick Adnan”, “Dapo Egebi”, “Susane Wenger”, “Gary VanderVoort”, “Alex Nuga”, “Louis Mark”, “Hendrick Bertis”, “todd newberry “, “Johnny Dang”, “John Mionskowski” and more that I can’t be bothered finding, they have all contacted me with the same scam.
Makes me wonder if Allcalssifieds can possibly not know about the extent of the problem.
Cheers
I really liked this post. Can I copy it to my site? Thank you in advance.
Be very careful with this guy dangol Harris. I have received an identical email from this ‘marine engineer’ to buy my wife’s car for his dad’s birthday. No inspections, agent to pick up. ‘Very generous thief’.
Hi,
Thank you so much for this post. I just got all the same emails too from him wanting to buy my car for his dad! I really need to sell it, so I was almost fooled, but picked up on the spelling mistakes and typed his name into google.
Cheers
Hahaha – had a good laugh when I googled the guys name… Tried to do it to me!
Contact Details:
Name: dapo egebi
Email: dapoegebi@yahoo.com
Phone:
Message:
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Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it outrightly,I am willing to offer you $7,200 for it and i will be paying you via my PayPal account,I will also like you to send me your paypal details(PayPal e-mail address) including your phone # so i can effect payment to you right away and make sure you get back to me so that we can arrange for pick up as i will like the item to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply.
Hi All
Thanks for your posts.
My try-hard-scammer wanted to buy my car too but apparently has restricted access to the web! How then was he able to reply to my email within minutes?
From: dapoegebi@yahoo.com
Phone:0420938476
Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it outrightly,I am willing to offer you $41,200 for it and i will be paying you via my PayPal account,I will also like you to send me your paypal details(PayPal e-mail address) including your phone # so i can effect payment to you right away and make sure you get back to me so that we can arrange for pick up as i will like the item to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply.
From: Rach
I just tried to call the mobile number listed and it is disconnected. Are you a genuine buyer?
From: dapoegebi@yahoo.com
Thanks for the mail..Due to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it.
Do get back to me with your PayPal email now so that i can make the payment..i wait for your response asap..
Thanks…
Haha,
These posts are very funny. I am in the middle of selling my car to Dapo Egebi, and things didn’t stack up so I put his name into google and this is what I came up with. Funny that he hasn’t got an address or phone number, or internet banking on his bank account!
Thanks for posting the emails, hopefully it will help eliminate all scammers..
Just had the same guy try and scam my car until i read this blog, so cheers… always do my research, because if it sounds to good to be true… it is! cheers
Contact Details:
> Name: dapo egebi
> Email: dapoegebi@yahoo.com
> Phone:
>
> Message:
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> Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it outrightly,I am willing to offer you $11,700 for it and i will be paying you via my PayPal account,I will also like you to send me your paypal details(PayPal e-mail address) including your phone # so i can effect payment to you right away and make sure you get back to me so that we can arrange for pick up as i will like the item to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply.
>
Hi thanks so much for your information he is telling me he is buying my daughters horse at the moment as soon as he said i needed to pay for his shipping to nigeria alarm bells rang so i googled his name so glad i did thanks for the info how do i make a page up for people to google i have a heap of emails from him i would like people to read.
I copied and pasted two about him being a scamer and emailed them to him to read thanks so much again Linda.
Glad someone started this thread.
He under the name of John Smith, just tried to buy my portable spa.
Thought I sounded too good to be true. I’m going to report it to All Classifieds.
I also had a scam on my car. Same idea, will pay full amount and has restricted access to internet and email.
I asked how much his agents fee was and said i’d post it on ebay for him to buy through there (using paypal)
I haven’t heard a reply in 4 days. =D
fyi though my guy was called Larry Moore and John Smith
Hi Pat, very good information. I listed a sectional sofa on Craigslist for my brother in Nova Scotia and my dialogue with “gary vandervoort” started almost immediately – I was a bit surprised that they asked if the sofa was in working condition! (notice how they even included a Craigslist Scam Advisory):
From: Gary VanderVoort [mailto:kgcgrve@googlemail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:45 PM
To: sale-mdxds-1276866365@craigslist.org
Subject: 12′ + 3-Piece Sectional Sofa – great condition! – $700 (Bedford (Sunny side Area)
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY — AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
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g’day,
i will like to know if this item is still available for sale and let me know the present working condition.
thankyou.
>> I Replied as follows:
I placed this Ad for my brother and wife who do not have a computer! We saw it on Friday and to me it looks in good shape. I know they had it re-upholstered fairly recently.
Give them a call at ###-###-####
>> I then received the following reply within minutes and the alarm bells went off! LOL, I then found your site while searching for Gary VanderVoort:
hi,
thanks for the email.the issue is am buying this item for someone special as a gift for someone specail and am sure it will be appreciated but am not in the country right now and i dont want to disappoint the person am buying it for because have already made a promise.do let me know the price you re expecting the item to sell and am sorry to say that i would have love to bring cash or send someone with cash but there is no one that is willing to help me do that as they keep saying they re very busy to help me with it.i will be making
payment by paypal because its the only payment i can access at my current location, so please do reply me asap with your paypal account details or send me a payment request from your paypal account as goods
so i can deposit the money rightaway.you can easily set up an account with paypal if you don,t have one at http://www.paypal.com.SCAM (changed from original) its safe,simple and reliable also do get back to me so we can arrange for pick up as i will like the item to be picked by my personal shipper and i want you
to know that it be best for me to see the it and test it before making a purchase but due to the fact that i am out of the country now on job duties as i told you earlier and i dont know the exact time i will be
back in country.
I wish that I had the time to play them along.
Rich
had the same scammer different allis
>> From: berg garth [mailto:garth02@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, 20 July 2009 7:10 PM
willing to pay $15,000 for a run down 15yr old truck which i advertised for $1,500.00 lol, i thought i was scamming him, looks like i was wrong. i thought it was to good to be true.
LOL John is trying to buy my horse. Here is the email below. Obviuosly he is changing to one horse power
Hello,
Am keen on the purchase of your ( Horse ) which you placed on web for sale. I want to know the last price it is going for?, Do respond to my offer with required details and other important details on this ( Horse )..I expect to hear from you in good time a pics of the item will be appreciated…
Regards,
John Mionskowski.
Fuller Inc
15 Lady Brae,
Gorebridge, Midlothian,
E23 4HT, Scotland
Phone: +44 (0) 70359 7585
Mobile: +44 (0) 7035973961
LOL wonder if someone would answer the phone. They must think we are soooo stupid
cheers
Fax: +44 (0) 7035967450
This John Mionskowski is trying to buy a van I posted on an internet site for truckers. I sure am glad I goggled his name and found this web site. Something in his e-mails just didn’t seem right. Thanks again.
Norm
Thanks for posting the experience. I received the same email yesterday while trying to sell my car online on carsales.com.au. I smell a rat immediately as KNOW ONE will buy a car without looking at it.
I just copy the message and pasted it on google and found your story. Certainly helps to confirm that its a SCAM.
Below is the email I got.
First email – I will like to make an offer of $16,700 for your car, pls let me know if you accept my offer? (I’m selling it for $16,500.)
Second email – Thanks for the mail,i am buying the car for dad and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and i really want the car to be a surprise for dad so i wont let him know anything abt the car until it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be more than happy with the car.I insisted on paypal because i dont have access to my bank account online as i dont have internet banking, but i can pay from my paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address so i can make the payments asap for the car and pls if you dont have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to http://www.paypal.com.au and get it set up , after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the car up after i have made the payments.
Andrew
Oh Yes…This time his name is GREG ALAN and his email is
ggalanbegins@yahoo.com
Thanks for posting the experience. I received the same email today because i was trying to sell some oldtimer carparts.
I should nod have send money but reading your experience makes everything easeyer.
Thanks
Hans
Good one with the treadmill. I really thought it was funny. Particularly that the crook thought two cities in the same country couldn’t be that far apart! LOL
Anyway John Mionskowski is now trying to buy a car worth $8 and spend $4G to ship it. But he has upped his game. Asked for more information and is spending some effort on getting some details correct. Thankfully stupid but even stupid gets lucky now and then so everyone should be on their guard.
Thank you for your posting as it has helped out a lot with a guy named John Mionsköwski from Scotland. He was willing to pay $12,000 for a car he has never seen before. I sent him pictures of the exterior since that is all I had.
He never said anything about a paypal account though, he just asked for my mailing information so he can mail me a cheque. I found this very suspicious because he never answered my questions about how he was going to ship it. I have attached my e-mails with him so everyone will know what he is up to.
Hello John,
I am glad to hear that you are serious about purchasing the car but I would like to wait till I am able to send you all the accurate information over the Christmas holidays to make sure that this car is truly what you want and are willing to pay to have shipped overseas. I hope you understand but I do not want you to pay all the costs for this car and not be satisfied. I have made some mistakes about a couple of things; we do not have the receipts for all the work that has been done on it and it has had the roof replaced. I will contact you as soon as I am able to provide you with all the information.
I would like to thank you for your patience and understanding.
Best Regards,
Tracy
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:27:37 +0000
From: johnmionskowski.1966@yahoo.de
Subject: RE: 1985 Cutlass Salon For Sale.
To: Tracy
Dear Tracy,
Thanks for your quick and prompt response to my email, I am interested and i am okay with the price. I would want you to get back to me with your contact details where you would want payment issued and mail ed out to you in this manner.
FIRST NAME……………..
LAST NAME………….
ADDRESS…………
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Country:
PHONE NUMBER………….
FAX Number:…………….
You do not have to worry about shipping as i would have my shipping agency that handles all my shipping come to your location after payment has reached you for the pick up.
I would be expecting to hear back from you with the requested information so as payment to be issued and mailed out to you as soon as possible.Hope to hear back from you soonest.
Thanks
Regards,
John Mionsköwski.
Fuller Inc
15 Lady Brae,
Gorebridge, Midlothian,
E23 4HT, Scotland
Office Phone: +44 (0) 70359 7585
Mobile Phone: +44 (0) 7035973961
Office Fax: +44 (0) 7035967450
Email: johnmionskowski.1966@yahoo..de
Website: http://fullerinc.net/
— Tracy schrieb am Sa, 12.12.2009:
Von: Tracy
Betreff: RE: 1985 Cutlass Salon For Sale.
An: johnmionskowski.1966@yahoo.de
Datum: Samstag, 12. Dezember 2009, 6:01
Hello John,
I have been told that the asking price is $12,000 but they are open to reasonable offers. Like I said in my last please contact Carol at cccat@shaw.ca if you have any questions about the price. She is the one who decides what she will accept for an offer. I am only able to supply the car facts and information.
Thank you,
Tracy
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:28:07 +0000
From: johnmionskowski.1966@yahoo.de
Subject: RE: 1985 Cutlass Salon For Sale.
To: @hotmail.com
CC: @shaw.ca
Hello,
Send me the final price of the 1985 Cutlass Salon.
Regards,
John Mionsköwski.
Fuller Inc
15 Lady Brae,
Gorebridge, Midlothian,
E23 4HT, Scotland
Phone: +44 (0) 70359 7585
Mobile: +44 (0) 7035973961
Fax: +44 (0) 7035967450
Email: johnmionskowski.1966@yahoo.de
Website: http://fullerinc.net/
— Tracy schrieb am Do, 10.12.2009:
Von: Tracy
Betreff: RE: 1985 Cutlass Salon For Sale.
An: johnmionskowski.1966@yahoo.de
Datum: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009, 4:19
Hello John,
I would like to thank you for your inquiry, I have attached all the specs that I know off hand and some pictures. It’s actually my mother in-law that is selling this car so I have forwarded her your information. I am going to let her talk about the price she is asking so if you would like to contact her, her email address is ???@shaw.ca. I only have pictures of the outside of the car right now, I am hoping when we go up for the Christmas holidays I will be able to take interior pictures and get more information for you. I could not help but notice your address is in Scotland, would you be shipping the car overseas?
This had 91,242 original miles, everything is original on and in this car. This was the 1985 “Show Stopper” show car for the 1985 Vancouver, British Columbia car show. It was purchase on the trailer heading for the show so it is the original owners who are selling this beautiful car. We are hoping to find someone to continue to love it and appreciate what a great car this is. There have been $12,000 put into restoring it and receipts are available. If you wanted to put modified collector plates on it you can in 2010. It has also been re-certified with ICBC.
It has the following original parts: 305 V8 engine, fuel injectors, rims, stereo decks, interior, same paint colour scheme with red pin striping.
???-???-???? (Powell River, BC) her name is Carol.
Please let me know if you have any other questions as I will try to find the answers to them now. If I do not know the answer I can find out the answer when we are visiting them for Christmas and I will be able to look into it myself.
Best regards,
Tracy